We agree with that because we think they were sitting in his pocket the whole time! They have thought they had the right guy several times in the Zodiac case, but all of the suspects fell through. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. On February 13, 2017, Libby and Abby took a hiking trip at the abandoned Monon High Bridge, in an outing that was only meant to be for a few hours. Both of these people were probably ragers before, so its not like they did a U-turn. Answers to questions about my credibility. Theres just journalists. Sorry, this post was deleted by the person who originally posted it. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. I find it interesting that you stated he told the girls that he was a railroad policeman so that audio must have been on one of the girls cell phones? The event, entitled New and Old Wars, New and Old Challenges to Peace, takes place from 7 p.m. to 8:30 p.m. on Wednesday at McKenna Hall in rooms 215/216. Forget it. Distance of residence from crime scene at the time of the crime: Less than 2 miles to the east along the creek. Tough shit. Because of the number of people saying this rumor is true, it goes into the likely category. I didnt remove it. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. Hopefully justice will be served. He is not connected to this case in any way, but he helped provide context into how police connected a bullet found at the murder scene to the suspect in this case. He was also scared to join her group because I was in there and he was afraid of me. I am friends with one of the parents and to my knowledge, no one has been told if this was sexual or not, only people have speculated. They dont risk their careers to talk to bloggers. We sent him off to dig into Mr. X. Good job though, because you confirm much of what Ive seen. Its not free though. Here are hosts Andrew Iden and Barbara MacDonald, with more on what to expect over the course of the. Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. Actually, Jack, the families do not know at all. DELPHI, Ind. Privacy Policy. Liberty "Libby" German and Abigail "Abby" Williams were best friends who went everywhere together. Four people are involved at least peripherally, BG and three others. FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. Almost three years later, it's a mystery that still haunts the small town of Delphi, Indiana while police say the killer may walk among them. I thought there was more to this blog. LE doesnt like being lied to, especially when they are investigating a double homicide. And possibly even other rapes and homicides. Then come email me and I will send you a link to the private group and a password to get you in. But know, this is deliberate. However, there are some good posters, especially on r/LibbyandAbby. The problem with this is that a searcher claims he searched the area where the girls were found the night of 2-13 and not only were the girls not there but none of the props were there either. BG must have fired his gun at some point in this crime. I ask this because another theory says they could have gone up the creek to a barn and then they should have dry clothes. Theres only one parent. Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. I guess I also wonder how everyone put such and effort to look only a few hours after being missing. Im so sorry. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2019/09/20/support-beyond-highbrow/. And Im sure that the Delphi police could say the same thing. https://beyondhighbrow.com/2021/04/04/delphi-murders-update-april-4-2021/. Hes laughing b/c theyve been focused upon a completely wrong direction. Copyright 2022 WPTA. If the father was an underage boy, Im not sure anyone cares. Little if any good information comes out of these places. Both my gut instinct and logic are screaming, Verify the statements of FSG!! *The cops refer to cases of scumbag on scumbag shootings as No humans involved or public service killings. Not say that innocent people are killed and hurt in these cases and in some cases the target themselves is completely innocent. If others want to dig around and find out who he is, thats their business. We dont just look at the Delphi case here. Got it? If it was Abbys phone this would imply she had a phone, he somehow got her number, he connected to a cell tower to send media, and then he took the phone. Join Nancy Grace for her new online video series designed to help you protect what you love most your children. Yes, that is what I referred to; i.e. For more information, please see our Were you a member of the private group? Court documents say Richard Allen, 50, admitted to being on the moon High Bridge Trail where the two girls were last seen in 2017. However, this early searching meant that he could use his lost my keys excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were found because he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evenings search. If one of the girls was pregnant, was the pregnancy a result of intercourse with Mr X? On the photo of BG on the bridge, does anyone else see handcuffs instead of camera/knife bag? The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. There are many people who confuse him with PB in comments and videos. One of them was Paul Etter. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. Almost zero. Good advice. So Mr. X was more traumatized by this crime than anyone else, including the victims grandmother who was hurt more than anyone. Latest: Hope32. There are cases like this all over the country. The idea that a gag order was issued on this truck is an unconfirmed rumor. Friends with Ron Logan on whose property the crime occurred. Im not familiar with Indiana; Ive never been there. Are they deliberately lying to us? It says at one point apparently Machine Operator as a title, but then the vid definitely makes it a point to focus on Christian Teen Club. Not sure what the implication is there, but one can certainly imagine. This source close to the retired detective will be referred to as an LE source close to the investigation. Its at his home on a shelf! He did commit the crime because the younger sketch is just BG in catfish form, his other younger personality that he used to snare victims. And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; its just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes! This is a rumor that a woman walking her dogs on the bridge at 12:30 PM on the day of the murders, a full hour before BG probably appeared on the trails at 1:30 PM, saw a man who looked like the Young BG sketch. I just like to take this opportunity to thank the Mods in making this subreddit Delphimurders readable again and to the posters who post informative, well thought out COMMENTS. Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? Or wet sneaker. LE blew off their concerns and called off the search, citing safety concerns for the searchers but seemingly had little of the same concerns for the missing teens who could have been severely hurt and unable to help themselves, just waiting for someone in LE to find them that night. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. Marital status: Married, rocky and tumultuous marriage with breakups where they go live on their own and later get back together. I read most of those posts over there and of course I read any post about me. There are 244 comments there. Who are you friends with. R/DelphiMurders is completely useless due to their no rumors or speculation rules, which means that you can only discuss what is proven about the case, which after four years, is just about nothing. This seems to be one of the motives for the homicide. INDIANAPOLIS Indiana State Police say his personal pictures were used to lure young girls - a cop, victimized in a catfish scheme and suddenly thrust into the Delphi murders investigation. We think people need to stop talking about DNA. [Featured image: Abby (l) and Libby (r)/Handout], Missing Nevada Woman Stopped Contact with Family, Police Seek Tips, Unknown Man Seen Using Missing Georgia Mans Credit Card in Baton Rouge, WATCH LIVE: Murdaugh Family Murders Day 25: Closing Arguments, subscribe to the Crime Stories with Nancy Grace podcast. Ronald Logan died Jan. 24, 2022. LE themselves have admitted that they have one smudged fingerprint. While we see a giant plush bear, thats too weird, so we will defer to the search party lady and agree with her statement. He could offend today in say, Ohio and offend in Illinois and be in his journey back home to commit more offenses. Similar murder conditions. If so, where and when? Delphi murders update: Richard Allen, Delphi murder suspect, asks for public defender Law enforcement officials have so far declined to answer those questions, repeating they need to. In the documents we have, it is openly stated that BG abducted the girls at precisely 2:13 PM. (ETK note: This sounds exactly like the Rand Corporation's "Delphi Technique," which, as I document in www.waterwatchalliance.us, has been utilized against the Crestone/Baca community in the past). The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? It was all over by 3:30 sure takes a lot of the heat off of LE for calling off that search, amirite? Hunting partner of Anthony Greeno, podcaster who has reported on the case avidly. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "ad4d5c5b719b64aff4ecea2be3a4c15a" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. You mentioned a pic of CSI workers with a doll a couple of days ago did anything come of this? Thats technically true but in all my years of playing the part of a PIO and putting out press releases, Ive never intentionally told a lie. Most of the rest are not bad people, but they are showboats, loudmouths, and boasters with egos the size of small planets. I find your blog very interesting. He could have gone home, but for some reason he stayed with his truck. Remember how all these Youtubers trashed Leigh Kerr? They are most likely related to one another, but your description of Mr. X confuses the two. I love you and the information youre releasing! Robert Lindsay is the leader of a sleuthing group that presently has ~230 paid members. However, we presently lack evidence that Mr. X worked at Indiana Packers. Hes a local executive of a government function or perhaps better yet a nonprofit of some sort. 1950 brazil world cup tragedy. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. She also managed to take a photo and record a small clip of the suspect. At this point, they dont even have enough for an arrest. Im not saying anymore in an attempt to protect LEs directive. And at the end, Carter says, He may even be in this room right now, (he was in fact) and then looks in the complete opposite direction of Mr. X. I dont know, FIELDS! Yes, they did record audio of themselves torturing those girls. Could be something more nefarious. Garrett Kirts: Local man, all around run of the mill bad person. Thing is, over time your information tends to get better. And every day, more and more chilling details emerge. Dime a dozen. This makes absolutely no sense at all. We doubt if she did contact his wife. Delphi residents and those closely following the case were stunned when, on April 22, 2019, the Indiana State Police announced the case was moving in a "new direction." Law enforcement released a very brief video clip of the main suspect walking along the bridge, and a revamped version of the audio clip released in 2017 that said, "Guys . The bodies of the two friends were found the next day, about . Mr. X was employed by Indiana Packers around 2011 or 2012. Good question and we have no answer to it. The guy that is making those videos about Mr X, and the guy by the name of Derek godsey. Hi folks! 43 sec is probably the time they have of the man on the girls phone recording. So I held off. Many people from the Delphi area have gone over to went over to Evansdale to work on plants over there. So he obviously kept a copy of that for himself. They say a forensic analysis found the round had been cycled through a gun belonging to Allen. Thats actually how I was pointed to you because apparently, I copied from you (YouTube actually deleted these comments too ). We also dont know what he was doing searching down there that night. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. Via LE Source A, we learned that LE has only recently started to believe that BG (Mr. X) is also responsible for the Evansdale Murders. Im not sure how he got there, if he drove a car, or if so, where he parked it. In addition, note that he abducted two girls on the 13th, 2-13. The dolls may have been placed there before the crime. That is because we got these statements either directly from LE, official case documents, or the same conclusions reached independently by two different sources (for this to be false, both sources would have had to make up the exact same lie), or from direct statements from one of the girls guardians. Obviously this is the only type of personality that is capable of podcasting an egomaniac on the other hand, their personality pathology limits the usefulness of their shows. There is evidence that may have worked at a Tyson packing plant in Logansport in 2011-2012. These are mostly hate sites. I 100% agree about Mr X, and I recently seen a pic of his stepson which I think looks similar to the YBG sketch. We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and weve even filled in a lot of the blanks. These guys are mostly narcissists and they dont believe in cooperation. YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. Derrick German: Libbys father, meth dealer, convict who served time in prison and supposedly ratted people out to get a lower sentence. Employment history: Unknown prior to 2011. This has helped me a lot. To the Facilitator (change agent), double-speak is a key tool. We are very worried that the police may be trying to pin this crime on Kegan and Tony Kline and we know neither one is involved. There is no way he would come back later to stage anything because he wouldnt know how safe it was or how many law enforcement would be around. Instant person of interest. Homeless for a period in the 2000s, where he resided at a homeless shelter. Dolls were hanging from trees at the crime scene. 242? Are we making up lies about getting information from police when we actually have no contacts with them? But after continuing to receive these pings and after it being 5 years, I went back and decided to post as these images have since plagued me. Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. If its who I think it is, you can tell her I said that. Ages approximate. Killer? The first sections deal with somewhat extraneous material that you may or may not find interesting. Not so much for 15 year old girls. White scarf covering the lower half of his face. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. This is what happened. Logan identifying him also speaks volumes considering how close they were all Kirts life, But Ed Bounds makes a really terrific point about why Logan was allowed to get out of jail & do his time at homeBasically saying thats incredibly rare but for the reason even more rare (horses need a better attendee? Delphi murders:Review the case through 5 years of reporting Initially, the media filed a motion to intervene in November, requesting the court to unseal Allen's probable cause affidavit, his . Carter added the probable cause affidavit. We now have a better time frame for Mr. Xs truck being parked at the cemetery. How about getting your moneys worth? The state has to prove it. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Police: Right and you know you talker (sic) to her and you admitted to talking to her? Police say they also discovered an unspent round from a gun near the girls bodies. According to News Nation, The Murder Sheet podcast obtained transcripts of an interview between a possible suspect, Kegan Kline, and Indiana investigators. And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. This goes on all the time, however. - The murders of Abby Williams and Libby German have remained unsolved since that fateful day in February 2017, when the girls went for a walk on the historic trails of Delphi and never came. The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. Drunkard perhaps. Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. Unverified with Some Likelihood of Being True is a common qualification. Well, hes the right age anyway. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? A subpoena for an IP address led to another address in Peru, and a second search warrant found Kline and his father there. Did he see BG? Conceivably, perhaps ~10% of men might have those nine markers. IMHO there is a main suspect, and I dont really care if everyone is pointing elsewhere. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. The move, which takes effect immediately, comes as insulin makers continue to face pressure from members of Congress and advocacy groups to lower the cost of the lifesaving medication. Email: abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Long, 22 pages. Im seeing in between. 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